Completely agree, we should start to develop our own pattern drafting system here. I think there is quite some pattern drafting power collected here, so it could be a success to start someting!
I personally use the not well known system from Schiele/ Schön, but also have many books on the at least in Europe most used System HAKA (Müller & Sohn) and many others. So we should be able to cloud develop easy to use basic patterns for Seamly.
Would love to see some motivation on this Forum here.
As a Patent and Trademark Attorney, I can also help with license stuff.
Yes, This should happen. Even if such a system could draw from the pre 1930 ones. A shirt is a shirt, regardless of era, even if styles change. Ideal of course would be for the authors of one of the postwar systems to release their “legacy” system under Creative Commons (but I don’t see that happening in the mid-term.).
Along with @slspencer 's expert guidance and hard work, and a lot of input by @Douglas , we’ve been busy with a system for women for over a year now. It’s tough going because we’re using sound pattern making principals that are not like any one system. We’re really putting a lot of thought, discussion and effort into this project.
I have no idea when something will be started for men, and I have no idea when, or even if, this book will become available to the public.
How about tackling the pattern making system for men? I’m sure it’s a lot easier than for woman
(Note to forum moderators- If it’s possible to split threads, it’s suggested as the topic has drifted.)
Thanks for letting us know about the effort. Recommendation would be to also put this new system in digital book form, ( Epub, PDF are widespread, and export options in Libre Office) , (under Creative Commons if possible),
In terms of a ‘female’ system, I’d make a strong representation to include ‘grading’ (althou Seamly’s pattern are based on Tape measures.) for ‘tall and broad’ plus sizes, if the system allows for this. I use this term rather than another for inclusivity reasons.
I think we should first align on the expected result.
In my opinion, we do not need to work on ePub’s or PDF’s if we want to include Seamly’s very own system.
My proposal is to include a bunch of basic patterns like men’s and women’s pants / trousers, shirts, dresses, and the like into Seamly.
So you have a dedicated button in Seamly to klick “basic pattern men’s pants”, choose a measurement file where the needed measurements are in, and then the magic happens within milliseconds as seamly draws the basic pattern for those mesurments and bang you have the finished pattern in Seamly where you can start making your own amendments to make your own pattern.
I think this would greatly lower the entry barrier for folks that wants to start sewing with own patterns, as making a basic pattern is always a lot of work and needs a big chunk of Knowledge.
If you leave people with a pattern that basically fits would help them quite a lot to start a “career” for sewing own things.
The issue is to find a system that fits for all of us out there. I have very limited knowledge about all these pattern making systems, as I only know two of them. Systemschnitt and HAKA. Systemschnitt is great for all folks with a BMI under 20 (I have 16), but may not fit well for those over that value. HAKA does not fit well for folks with a BMI under 20, but seems to go well with people above.
So finding a system that really adopts well to the specific measurements is not easy. I tried a lot of different things for pants over the years but none was really helping. And I only could test it on me (and now my son who is also very tall) so adaption to other figures was not possible.
So my point is including a pattern system in Seamly to quickly draw basic patterns out of a mesurement file automatically.
If you navigate to the folder where your Seamly software is installed, then to Samples, you’ll find all of the above in the Measurements and Patterns sub-folders. They’ve been there forever.
I looked to see if there was a way to move some of the posts to another topic to no avail so unless @Pneumarian has a better idea… I’d start a new topic and put a link to here.
Well… they’ve been with the source code forever. Only within the last year or 2 when I rearranged some of the folders updating to the *sm ext’s did I incude the samples in the releases.
Diito. You just beat me to it. I’m rying to figure out when exactly the sample folder is getting packaged. I think maybe it’s time to try running the appimage on my lapttop under WSL - which I do have installed with Ubuntu.
I had to enter a command line prompt to disgorge the contents of the AppImage, & still was unable to find the files in there. However, it’s not hard to download the Source code, & access the files through that. Not that a Newbie should be expected to do so, quite the opposite.
I also think I know how to “split” a thread, but it requires impersonating multiple users, & I don’t think this is important enough for that.
TY for the info. I agree… If others want to continue discussing a Seamly pattern system they should start a new topic and provide a link here to the new topic.
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