Creating Multisize Measurement Files

Yes, ease is a totally different kettle of fish. I prefer my measurements to be totally without ease and I have custom codes in the Variables Table for ease. This way, if I’m creating a Moulage, I can zero the ease to get the skin tight garment. Or if I’m creating an overcoat, I can adjust the ease to allow for movement and additional layers of clothing underneath it. And this is all inside the Seamly2D program rather than having to switch between Seamly2D and SeamlyME and then my measurements chart won’t work nicely with other garments using the same measurement chart.

IOW, I try to keep the ease garment specific and my measurement chart universal :slight_smile:

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I guess what I was getting at… is there any ease in the sizes of the Amstrong table? Plus… like I mentioned with the Vougue mens patterns - you can’t always trust what the chart on the envelope says as far as the sizes go. Sure modern suits are more loosley fitted, but 7" of ease is a bit much.

Also, I know that from some of the systems I’ve used there is ease built into the draft, while others none at all. For ex: The older Supreme system (Blue or Red book) has little to no ease and produces a very tight fit.

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Sorry, I misunderstood. No, there’s no ease in her standard measurements. And ease gets added to the individual measurements, separately:

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When you deal with large groups of people (and you do not know anything about them in advance) there will be a large variance in body shapes. There have been many books and articles written about apple shape, pear shape, hourglass shape, P shape, and various other ways of describing different shapes. Add this to the variations in height, proportion (e.g. long waist vs short waist) it starts to show why the effort put into the set of measurements available in SeamlyME is meaningful.

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Ain’t that the truth, Plus you can add, that the majority of people don’t know how to properly take measurents.

Thus the “lengthen or shorten here” on commercial patterns. Probably the most common change I would make with mens jackets is grading the length up or down. Next to the chest and waist measurements, the nape to waist is one of the important measurments… even more so than the height as like you said it establishes the proportion or where the waist sits.

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Yes. We can enable both methods that patternmakers use to create size charts.

  1. With increments: Enter the begin and end sizes with size increment, and enter each measurement with measurement increment or formula.The size chart is calculated like Variables, and refreshed after editing.

  2. Without increments: Enter each size with measurements manually with an Add New Size tool. Useful for entering data straight from a patternmaking book or from a user’s own calculations for each size.

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Thank you for this topic, for me as a beginner this is opening my learning curve and minimising time spent in searching and trying to search for codes

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You’re very welcome, @Wakho. I did a blog a few years ago to show how to convert the Burgo method of pattern making from doing it by hand to doing it on Seamly - only the basics to give an idea. I’ve added some posts there about measurement charts, using variables, can’t remember what else :blush: but if you have time, have a browse through, you may pick up a few tips.

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Good day, where do I setup seamlyMe to use a full stop instead of a comma

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Hello, @Wakho. That is normally setup through your operating system along with the date, time, regional & language settings.

thank you much appreciated

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Yes :grin: you can make the multisizes also to be created in inches :grin: Darn! I’m missing this. But it still won’t do anything about the spreadsheet that I use. I just do it this way so that I can have everything nice & ready to create my multisize chart without having to bounce around too much juggling calculators, searching for measurement numbers, etc. etc.

Hmmm… I quite like this idea. If I can expand on it… Perhaps we can change the widget where we create a new multisize file to give the base size and the end size for that range of measurements.

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Then at the actual measurements, we can enter the base value and then the end value and the increment will be auto-calculated but will remain editable, if needed.

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Tab to move to next box.

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This would be so useful! There are quite some grading tables & rules that don’t proceed in a “linear” way through all sizes. And also one measurement’s grading will change between size A and B, while another measurement’s grading changes between size C & D.

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And get rid of the stupid unused “?” in the dialog title. :slight_smile:

Off the top of my head we would have to update the schema to add the “End size” to the XML. Which probably means adding it everywhere one would find the base sized used in the code.

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I don’t think so because the base size won’t change, we’ll still need to enter it and it will still serve the same purpose as the size from which other sizes are calculated from.

Which brings me to something else that has bothered me forever…

I really see no point in the sizes being constrained in the pattern preferences. Shouldn’t this be constrained in the measurement chart - since it’s the measurement chart that will only cover a certain number of sizes?

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(This could be automatically set by the Base and End sizes drawn from the measurement chart loaded.)

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Yes, one will have to make measurement charts for A & B and another for C & D. But I don’t mind, it’s easy to switch between measurement charts in the pattern :smile:

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I mean in the sense of where the code is reading and writing basesize to the XML.

I believe we’ve touched on this before.

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Hi All,

I am just transitioning to Seamly from a more traditional flat paper pattern drafting background and one of the major wins for me (I I thought), would be to easily resize my patterns. I’m a bit confused by the multisize pattern option though. My preferred size chart doesn’t have standard increments between all sizes E.g. it may be 0.5cm between some sizes for Scye Depth and then 0.3cm between other sizes. I can’t see how to achieve this with the multisize tool. Am I missing something?

Do I need to just build out individual measurement charts per size? Or build our several multiszie files where the increments are standard E.g one file for 0.5cm increments (sizes 44-50) then a second file for 0.3cm increments (sizes 52-56) and so on?

It would be great if there were a way to add in all the sizes that you want in your multisize file and then to list the step between each size (maybe there is and i’m missing it?)

Thanks all

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Hello and welcome to the Seamly2D forum, @Hazeleyp

At the moment, you will need to create separate multisize measurement charts for each incremental range - size 44-50 and size 52-56, etc, - and load the required measurement chart into Seamly2D each time you wish to change the sizes.

Another way would be to create a multisize measurement chart with your base size with no increments and use the Variables to change each measurement increment for each range with an if, then, else formula.

Here is an example:

size>38?6.5:size>32?5.75:size>26?5:size>20?4.25:size>14?3.75:size>8?2.75:2.5

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