Can you restate your question? 
The full circle I made using arc tool, but I can’t seem to trace it. So, I tried to make another skirt, Hi-Low skirt, which is high on the front and low on the back using point at distance tool to determine the skirt length as seen on E1, E2 and cb2. And then I join them using curved path tool. This way, I can trace it just fine (the back pattern anyway). My question is, how can I trace the full skirt pattern made by arc tool instead of making it manually by point at distance and curved path tool?
Can you post your files, so we can help you with the details?
Here is the pattern:
full circle skirt pattern.val (7.8 KB)
Btw, in the issue I made I also included how I made another pattern piece and the direction worked fine but when I edit my previous pattern piece, the direction is still wrong. Maybe I made a mistake? Here is the post I made in issue tracker:
Edit: I figured out how to trace the circle skirt. I need to hold the shift button when I select the arc because it is in counter-clockwise direction. But it seemed only allowed me to select 1 arc at a time? I need to trace 2 arcs, the waistline and skirt length, and when I tried to trace both simultaneously, it only showed 1 arc (whatever I selected first) and only the point on the second arc.
And from wcs2 to waistcb, the line was not in perfect curve because I continued with selecting cb point after fully traced the first arc. Here is my path:
Can you post your *.val & *.vit files, so I can troubleshoot this issue?
You can’t draft a full circle skirt this way.
It’s possible to make a detail piece for the hem line, then use an internal path to describe the waist.
Here’s simple example.
CircleSkirt.val (1.9 KB)
Also… if one uses splines to draw the waist & hem… take a look at this thread: Circle Skirt pattern
Ahh, yes I can trace the waistline by using internal path, but it doesn’t trace the point (wcf, wcs, etc).
Here is the skirt and internal path:
Hmmm… the points are actually in the internal path, but it appears that one can’t add a seam allowance to an internal path… and therefore even though points are set as passmarks, they won’t show up.
I’ll try taking a better look at it tomorrow eve.
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Internal paths aren’t considered to be holes in the fabric. They are considered to be sewing lines (for pocket placement or contour darts) but not seam lines which require seam allowances.
To find the waistline plus ease, where ease has same proportions 1" ease for a 24" waist?
- waistline plus ease = waist_circ * (24 + 1)/24 = waist_circ * 1.042
In the software, how is this represented?
- waist_circ * 1.042 = 2r * pi
In the software, how could we calculate this for only the front half of the the waistline?
- waist_circ * 1.042 / 2 = r * pi
- waist_arc_f * 1.042 = r * pi
In the software, how could we find the radius for the front half of the waistline?
- r = (waist_arc_f * 1.042)/_pi
Ok, now we know the numbers to do this circle skirt! Let’s draft it…
To draft the front pattern:
- Create A1. Point from distance and Angle. From A, length = (waist_arc_f*1.042)/_pi, angle=270
- Create A2. Point from distance and Angle, From A, length = Line_A_A1, angle=0
- Create Arc. From A. Radius = Line_A_A1. First angle = 270. Second angle = 0
Add a hip point along the center front:
- Create A3. Point from distance and angle. From A1, length = waist_to_hip_f, angle=270
Add a hip point along the side front:
- Create A4. Point from distance and angle. From A3, length = waist_to_hip_side, angle=0
Front hem point, where hem is knee length:
- Create A5. Point from distance and angle. From A, length = (height_hip - height_knee), angle=270
Side hem point:
- Create A6. Point from distance and angle. From A4, length=Line_A3_A5, angle=0
Hemline arc:
- Create Elliptical Arc. From A. Rotation Angle=0. Radius 1=(Line_A_A1+Line_A1_A3+Line_A3_A5). Angle 1=0 Radius 2=(Line_A_A2+Line_A2_A4+Line_A4_A6). Angle 2=270
- Note: the angles are reversed, angle1 should be angle2. this needs to be fixed.
Mirror the front half using the Flip objects by Axis tooll:
- Create mirrored points and arcs. Flipping objects by Axis. Origin=A. Axis=vertical. Select waistline, A2, A6, Shift+Hem Arc
- Don’t forget: Add the side seam line, it won’t be mirrored
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Create the seam allowance. SeamAllowance = 1. Hem depth = 3 * CurrentSeamAllowance
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Add a wider seam allowance for the zipper, from waist to hip point along left side side. After A2, before A4, seamallowance = (2 * CurrentSeamAllowance)
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Note: seam allowance doesn’t allow a distinct change between widths at A4. This should be fixed.
To find the radius for the back half of the waistline:
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r = waist_arc_b/pi = waist_arc_b*1.042/_pi
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Create back draft similar to front draft, substituting waist_arc_b ad waist_to_hip_b for waist_arc_f and waist_to_hip_f
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Create back hem from B3–> 1.3*Line_A3_A5 (30% longer than front)
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Create symmetry
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Create detail. Create seam allowance
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Note: The change in side seam allowance width at B4b1 has similar problem as the Front at A4. This should be fixed
Here is the waistband. It is the length of the front half waistline + the back half waistline + twice the buttonhole width. I defined an “increment” that is 1.75cm and named it buttonwidth
The passmarks are placed one buttonwidth from each end. These passmarks indicate where the waistband ends will overlap over the zipper. They extend past the edges of the left side seam by one buttonwidth each.
The middle passmark shows where the waistband matches the right side seam. From C4, it extends down the line by twice the back waist quarter waistline, in my pattern that is 2*Arc_B_35. Note: The length of mirrored arcs is listed as negatives, so you can’t use them in formulas. This should be fixed
The buttonhole is marked as an internal path. It begins exactly over the left side seam, and extends towards the front for 1.5 * buttonwidth cm.
Mirrored arcs have negative length. this should be fixed.
The only way to draft a full circle skirt without seams or without using an internal path is to draft half and place it on the fold.
That said, here’s a work around solution to use internal paths to show the waist seam & allowance, plus notches (IMO passmarks has to go - it’s just a confusing term). Instead of drafting the waist band to measurements, I used the length of the waist seam curve… then added extra seam allowance on one end for the underlap.
CircleSkirt2.val (16.3 KB)
They should be… There are cases where it’s necessary to cut a hole - of whatever shape - inside a pattern piece and allow for seam allowance. For ex: a square cuff at the end of a sleeve on a colonial dress… or for a waist band on a felt one piece full circle poodle skirt.
And they are not symmetrical? At the moment I can’t imagine one single pattern that you couldn’t do at fold if you need a hole inside.
@slspencer: Thank you for the tutorial!
@Douglas: I tried to make the skirt by making a quarter circle and then flipped it vertical and horizontal into 3/4 circle. But I couldn’t flip the last quarter, maybe it had to do with me flipping flipped quarter? Did it need to be the original draft for the arcs to be flipped? I mean, it flipped but the arcs were not.
As in the picture, I flipped D1d1d2, D2d2, D6d2 and D5d1d2 into D1d1d2d3, D2d2d3 and D6d2d3. But the arcs are not flipped.
Anyway, because the arcs were not flipped, I make new arcs for the last quarter. Now I have full circle skirt, but how do I trace it? I trace it from waistline to hemline as I did earlier and it still doesn’t work. I couldn’t open the file you posted earlier. It always said that the max version supported was 0.4.8 while my version is 0.5.0.1.